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Andrew 51M  
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2/27/2013 8:54 am

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Feedback requested for possible change to

I realized that the blocked member tool has been discussed before but I would like to get some feedback on proposed changes. After reading comments about blocked members, it looks like many can be addressed by consolidating the different feature-centric blocks into a global block.

If we move to that direction, I would like to propose that if a member has been blocked for a single feature (e.g., posting on your blog or viewing your profile), we make that member blocked for all activities we currently block for related to you. It appears that many people are expecting this behavior when they click a "Block Member" link. Has anyone ever blocked someone but wanted to let them still interact with you using one or two features?

Also proposed is to simplify the blocked member page to just have a list of block usernames and possibly a checkbox next to them to block activity from the IP that the member last logged in from (but not show the IP to anyone).

Thanks for your comments (I will discontinue actively reading comments in this thread but leave it open for members to post - will skim later prior to implementation). After reading 50 posts, I am leaning towards changing blocks so that when a new person is being blocked for any one feature, we will automatically add them to all the feature blocks available. Members can still go the block member page and unblock certain features for the person... although, it happens very infrequently.



lok4fun500 109M  
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2/26/2013 1:01 pm

I am a fairly new member (since last September) and have not had to use the block format. My personal feeling is "if" I want to block anyone, I want them blocked from "all" my activities.




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mortylicious 38F
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2/26/2013 1:07 pm

I would like them blocked from everything including seeing your comments that you post anywhere, including them not being able to follow your comments around where you post, they should not be able to see you period when blocked, whats the point having a block feature if you cant block them fully from you

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LadyLuck2 63F  
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2/26/2013 1:07 pm

I want them globally blocked.

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JustHere2Cam 52M
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2/26/2013 1:14 pm

I don't know why it's separated into so many different categories now. Why would I ever want, for instance, to block someone from my blog, but not from having them email me? "Blocked" should be "blocked", period.


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sexysixties2 71F  
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2/26/2013 1:20 pm

I like the idea of global blocking....frankly I want those people I have blocked not to appear anywhere on the site to me....I also don't want them to be able to see anything I do. Total global blocking please.

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lok4fun500 109M  
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2/26/2013 1:24 pm

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"Exactly"!!!!!




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rm_Hedonista13 53F
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2/26/2013 1:26 pm

My opinion is like others: if I get to the place I need to block someone, I don't want them to know anything about where I "travel" in the site.


tigerlady555 99F
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2/26/2013 1:51 pm

I like to chat on instant messenger, and I am not much into blogging. When I block someone I just dont want to chat with them anymore, I dont care if they read my profile or blog, in fact why not let them read it because who cares? I might want to blog about how stupid they were and if that is the case, they will most definitely need to read it. But you know they wont. Most of the men on instant messenger dont pay for membership anyway, so it's not like they are being deprived of reading anything. I see your point though, when they burn their bridge burn it all down.

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Icould 61M
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2/26/2013 2:06 pm

Blocking by their IP address seems a bit odd. Most of us don't have a fixed IP address but are issued one from a block that our IPS uses.
So block an IP will not stop the offender but may cause some issues for the innocent.

I agree with if I block someone block them everywhere. You may also want to look at setting up a bell to ring when several people block the same user in a short period of time. This might get rid of some of the bots and fakes....hummm or some of them yours anyway?

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rm_19harley86 69M
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2/26/2013 2:33 pm

If someone is blocked,then it should be for every thing on a site,pretaining to your profile and blog

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Garlandj9 40M
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2/26/2013 2:44 pm

Global block is my vote!

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BrownEyedBBW 51F  
8860 posts
2/26/2013 2:56 pm

This is a "Mee Too" response. If I block you I don't want you seeing a lock of my hair. I always check that universal box on the far right and hope it takes.


Howlinwolf1961 57M
18 posts
2/26/2013 3:19 pm

The magazine's Advice Lines is a subject where no blocking should ever be allowed. Period. It's an open forum, and blocking someone on that forum means it's no longer open.

Remove the blocking function from the Advice Lines. Even if that means anyone who wants to block someone cannot do so on the Advice Lines.

Thank you


Andrew replies on 2/26/2013 5:44 pm:
I think the advice line block is more to keep blocked member from posting on the question of the user... which seems fair... especially from an abusive member.

missingu2012 70M
3138 posts
2/26/2013 3:53 pm

One item that came to light recently is the "New Home Page" 's
Activites Updates. Apparently, this synopsis seems to ignore or over ride any currently set user preferences, simply allowing the entire world to see all your recent stuff.

As it, things tagged to eventually go into areas marked Private or Friends Only, are totally visible to anyone, via this Recent Activity highlight. The Activities highlights even allows anyone to make comments and likes, even those people specifically blocked from accessing the areas these items are eventually destined for.

There are several posts on this in the Live Community Feedback threads for Feb.

If a member is going to be blocked, they should be blocked from this "Activities" area of the site, as well.


Andrew replies on 2/26/2013 5:53 pm:
I'll bring this up to developer tomorrow... it should have been an easy test to not include private photos in activity feed... if was overlooked, easy to fix.

Andrew replies on 2/26/2013 5:58 pm:
Ok, they are going to get back to me. The manager said they thought it had been fixed but they will verify or make sure it's fixed this week.

Howlinwolf1961 57M
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2/26/2013 4:32 pm

    Quoting Sexy_SandraD:
    Currently there is a problem with blocked members
    using alternate profiles to access blogs that they have been banned from.
    I assume that this new system would prevent that
    since it would block IP addresses.
    Is that correct?

That would be awesome. A blocking function that blocks by IP, and not by the individual profile. Now that's something.


Andrew replies on 2/26/2013 5:59 pm:
It is already there if you block by profile. But... they can always go to starbucks

missingu2012 70M
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2/26/2013 4:52 pm

    Quoting Howlinwolf1961:
    That would be awesome. A blocking function that blocks by IP, and not by the individual profile. Now that's something.
I initially thought this would be a good idea, but I've now changed my mind.

This IP address block would work, if you make the presumption everyone either lives alone, or all roomates have their own personal internet provider (no routers), or has an absolutley uncrackable secure wireless feed.

I would not like to see the morning I wake up to find I'm banned from half the people in my search parameters, only because a neighbor hacked my wireless, and managed to get themselves banned.

If this does get implemented in some form...how about a "Last Chance Jack Ass" button for those that got banned, like an appeal feature????
You know..."Why did you Ban me?"


Andrew replies on 2/26/2013 5:59 pm:
That's right... if you block by IP, then you might block someone else at the starbucks

AlvinBooth 65M
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2/26/2013 4:53 pm

Another vote for global block here. "You can't see me ... I don't want to see you ... anywhere."

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BrownEyedBBW 51F  
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2/26/2013 4:56 pm

    Quoting missingu2012:
    I initially thought this would be a good idea, but I've now changed my mind.

    This IP address block would work, if you make the presumption everyone either lives alone, or all roomates have their own personal internet provider (no routers), or has an absolutley uncrackable secure wireless feed.

    I would not like to see the morning I wake up to find I'm banned from half the people in my search parameters, only because a neighbor hacked my wireless, and managed to get themselves banned.

    If this does get implemented in some form...how about a "Last Chance Jack Ass" button for those that got banned, like an appeal feature????
    You know..."Why did you Ban me?"
Well you aren't getting banned from the site, you're only getting "banned" by one individual. Unless you're engaging in stalkerish behavior (like I had to deal with last Autumn) in most cases y9ou probably not even know.


_Neddy_ 48F

2/26/2013 5:12 pm

My experience to date is I've blocked someone for offensive behaviour and wish that they be blocked from all further interaction.


Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:13 am:
Thanks

anastasia666 41F  
2023 posts
2/26/2013 5:31 pm

Hello Boss,

To throw in my cents on this issue. I have had to block certain members for stalkerish behavior, threats and abuse. If the member in question can not see anything another member does or says, then that eliminates the problem of back and forth "he said.. she said.. they said " Plus it saves other members from having to read through all the insults and abuse and being forced to take sides. In time when cooler heads prevail one can always unblock that member if they choose. People with an agenda against a member will use any means possible to get at them. Blogs, groups, Chat rooms, IMC, emails..all of these have been used by members wishing to disrupt the site and other members in general.

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rdy2try4 54F  
3191 posts
2/26/2013 6:10 pm

Hey Andrew!! I am going to speak up. I have had 2 people on here that were serious stalkers, and 1 that was just causing trouble because he didn't like me or agree with my thinking. The 'global' block would work for me and many more people. If they can't see what I am doing anywhere it doesn't give them anything for fodder. They get much of what they are using to hurt someone by what they see posted. If they can't see anything we are doing then they don't have anything to post on. Unfortunately they can and often do make other profiles, I had one that actually made a profile using my home address and they entered the chatroom with it. They were handing out my personal information to total strangers and this puts a person in serious danger. Yes, I contacted the site and the legal department as well as my own police dept. to get it stopped. The site does need to step up to the plate to help some of us who have these serious stalker problems and help us out. I most definitely want a 'global.. you can't see anything I do and I can't see anything you do' button.


Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:24 am:
Yah, bad people suck

BTW, do you have all the checkboxes checked on people or do you sometimes not check them all?

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2/26/2013 6:31 pm

luvpump replies on 2/26/2013 5:59pmThat's right... if you block by IP, then you might block someone else at the starbucks

Exactly what I was thinking!

luvpump replies on 2/26/2013 5:53 pm
I'll bring this up to developer tomorrow... it should have been an easy test to not include private photos in activity feed... if was overlooked, easy to fix.

luvpump replies on 2/26/2013 5:58 pm:
Ok, they are going to get back to me. The manager said they thought it had been fixed but they will verify or make sure it's fixed this week.


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Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:25 am:
Thanks...

Dev says private photos don't show up in activity feed (was a bug)

shyram93 26F

2/26/2013 7:42 pm

Absolutely globally blocked!!! I also think if a member hits a pre determined number of "blocks", that a red flag be raised within the system and that the site would look into this person's behavior. 90% of those I have blocked have been because I easily sniffed them out to be a fake (a quick reverse pic look up!).

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Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:27 am:
Ideally, we'd hire a private investigator to work with police to track down each one of the blocked members and tie them up and spank them. Until then, we have to do things incrementally.

CampoGirl 53F  
43211 posts
2/26/2013 7:55 pm

Blocking someone should mean a global blocking, including groups...is it possible... that if I block someone, that means they can NOT see the group I moderate? Global blocking should be total blocking, where they can not even see my comments around blogland either.

Ive had one person who I blocked who would follow my comments on other blogs, quote me and try to start a fight like that.

I realize there is a starbucks, I get what you mean there!

It would be nice to be able to block people from a group I moderate, my blogs, emailing me, flirting, etc... so global blocking should include joining a persons group too.

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Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:29 am:
I kind of like the suggestion of a way to put people in blocks in groups by username... instead of waiting for them to join.

CampoGirl 53F  
43211 posts
2/26/2013 7:58 pm

    Quoting  :

This is what Id like to see happen too. The Ninja-posts can be prevented with a few changes here.

Andrew, Please consider this.

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Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:29 am:
hyah-yah! take that ninja...

nd2hvfun 61F  
9995 posts
2/26/2013 10:17 pm

YES i have blocked members from emails but dont care if they look at my profile or blogs..i may have blocked because they are a pain but not necessarily enough to totally block..we used to have were you do emails or total block i like the choice

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nd2hvfun 61F  
9995 posts
2/26/2013 10:27 pm

leave us the choice...total block or selective block..one blocks everything, the other just comments be it emails or blogs..as you can see from my testimonials i use the site for what it was meant for when i joined 10 years ago (with no pictures to post back than) to meet so i want options not any one group determining what goes and what stays the more options one has the happier they are

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Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:35 am:
For development, I am leaning to start with automatically putting the blocked member in all the blocks we currently have when you add them the first time to any of the blocks. Next, we will automatically check all the boxes for everyone (one time only)... yes, members will then have to go uncheck specific feature blocks if they want that person back... but it will help reduce confusion in the future.

luoxana 46F  
200 posts
2/26/2013 10:33 pm

I feel we should have a choice to globally block or block by specific category.


Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:36 am:
Yah, probably will make it check all blocks first... users can selectively unblock later.

JN63JPN 56F  
25949 posts
2/26/2013 10:35 pm

I have a certain undesireable character blocked from viewing my profile but keep him visible in the chat room so I can monitor his posts for abuse. He tends to get extremely abusive towards women who aren't living in Japan and those who don't reciprocate his interest. He also has a tendency to trash me and my friends when he thinks I'm not looking. He's on his 7th or 8th ID now.

With that being said, an initial total block would be good but keep a tweaking option. Right now, when I go to block someone from the message center, it is a pain to try to figure out which page that person is on, since I have 500+ in the list, and block the person across the board.

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Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:37 am:
Yes, we can help that...

FUNLOVER98335 54M  
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2/26/2013 11:38 pm

I do like the block as it is now. If there are some folks who i do not want to see in the IM i just block that part. That way i do not see them in the IM list and will not forget and send something to them by accident.

I still want them to send me email if the want. I just do not want to chat live with them at this time.

So the block by feature is quite good.


Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:39 am:
I hear ya

spunkycumfun 59M/64F  
36125 posts
2/27/2013 1:37 am

This is a great idea. Initially I assumed a blocked member would be blocked from all our activities and it took us a while to realise that this was not the case.


Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:42 am:
We have about 8 different mini-blocks... the first step here is to simplify setting those blocks on.

DoctorBooty 38M  
6256 posts
2/27/2013 5:12 am

I would have it set up to where you could block someone from seeing your blog comments on other's blogs.

While I understand the desire to change to a global, I would rather not do it that way. I tend to prefer having it where someone can look at the profile, continue to email me, but not be allowed to read my own blog. I'd prefer to let them know whatever I want to let them know.

I would say the best compromise for me is to have the block button be a global block for members who don't know how to use the site, but continue to use the current blocked members page where I can determine what to let them see. Just have to default to global unless otherwise chosen.

I would also prefer it if the blocked member is deleted from your blocked list if they decide to delete/remove their profile.


Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:43 am:
Yes makes sense

windsjohn 68M  
661 posts
2/27/2013 8:45 am

When I hit that Ignore or block button, I want that person to not hear me read me or have anything to do with me. During the bot days I was filling ignore daily. You got that under control for now but there are still many out there. The real persons who are just plain jerks That I block in one area,I want them blocked in all my areas I go.

Thanks for the update. Now let the standards read profiles while you are at it.


Andrew replies on 2/27/2013 9:47 am:
Thanks for the comments!

SwtItalian22 55F
198 posts
2/27/2013 4:11 pm

As far concerns there's nothing you can do to control stalkers, banned people from viewing your profile, or make trouble in community service lines, blings community you name it etc etc. They can still make new profile people are not blind or stupid other then be hypertical idiot and need to grew up act like an adult. Unfortunately they restore to act childish.

The main thing all you can do keep blocking just keep on watch for trouble makers..


wd40w 66M
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2/27/2013 9:36 pm

Blocked should be blocked...unfortunately if they have already Hotlisted you, before you have had a chance to block them, they can still know when you log in, are on line and wherever you visit on site...being stalked is no fun at all. If you can tie the block to the IP addy...all the better, although folks having a static IP addy are far and few...hope this consult you are doing bears some well needed fruit.

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copticus 68M
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2/28/2013 7:54 am

    Quoting  :

Comments like this puzzle me because I would have thought that Various would know what the balance of users was and what they were doing on the site - certainly we do tend to balkanize ourselves into areas of the site and our viewpoints reflect these biases.

But surely the first order of business for Various is to know what your customers are looking for, and what they are paying for ... closely followed by what do they want - but are not getting. You might think that there's no point to having a lot of freeloading bloggers here but - obviously there is a point to it ... I'll leave figuring that out as an exercise for the readers.

Me? I enjoy blogging very much .... and I enjoy meeting people here, and chatting with people here, I'd post stories and articles too except that the site format for these is a disaster.

But as to blocking - I suggest that you only need two modes, "blocking" and "hiding" - you my want to "hide" from the spouse or your relatives, but you want to "block" the arseholes. If you have a profile that's blocked by 30-40 people then that probably tells you something about that user.


Spirit6669 53M
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3/2/2013 7:07 am

I hope the block will work both ways, so if I block you I am invisible to you.

I believe it is vital the 'Global Block Button' must be easily accessible and quick and simple to operate from anywhere on the site. For example, at present the block is almost impossible to operate by a popular cammer as the usernames scroll through so quickly, then have to be copied in on block page. Could it operate by - highlight username > block - from anywhere ?

I wonder if the block could be extended to cover features that do not currently support blocks ? Absolute block all areas must be the best protocol (if possible) surely ?!

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sweet_VM 61F  
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3/2/2013 11:09 pm

I want them globally blocked on here for everything.
Some sick people out there!

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Shafalia 56F  
546 posts
3/6/2013 5:13 pm

In chat many of us ladies have had to block rude or harrassing male members. We block them, then we cant see them, but they can still see everything we say in chat. Shouldnt a block go both ways then? So if you block them so you cant see them, then they shouldnt be able to see you?


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