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Testing, pizza, 1,2,3, testing.  

Freeonereturns 63F
0 posts
6/7/2018 3:21 pm
Testing, pizza, 1,2,3, testing.


So here's a case study that might bring light to a confusing subject and I say from the out start I have no idea of full truth either way.

An illegal was arrested when trying to deliver a pizza to a location on a Base. Security there finding he was wanted for not leaving the country as agreed to in 2010.

The photo of him they used was of the man and two , I'd guess four and six years of age. I can only assume these girls which I'm sure are beautiful body and mind are his. Such is the predicament.

It's been eight years since he agreed with the court to return to his country, instead of jail time I'd guess. But as we see he did not. Not only did he stay but he fathered , a guess again but very good odds. But did not exist upon the date of his agreement to leave, simple math.

Spring forward now ten years later. I surely give him credit for working, a job no American want... Questionable but okay. Assuming again things/work only got better in time like it dose with most of us. Starting out flipping burgers and finding a profession in later years. So if this young man fits that profile there is no way he could afford the birth of his alone and if not started yet their fast coming education.

Those are the two easy ones but I'd guess they don't stop there. Housing, food stamps and other considerations I'd guess have been provided. Maybe I'm all wrong and he's independently wealthy and delivers pizzas for kicks, I wouldn't argue if that's the case, bless him.

The problem is (We are broke) Just today the subject of Social Security's demise aired again. Funny I never hear how welfare is going broke nor food stamps. There comes a time where attention must be paid to important issues, I feel we are there and have been. For me it's simple, we can not give away borrowed monies. I know it's not fun to make important decisions nor to set rules that others feel hurt from. Telling your that cake isn't breakfast food and no there really isn't a tooth fairy.

I'm not cruel as many of you might think, infact I want to help more. But we need to rethink everything! First everyone outside our country that we give aid. Do you know we still give China for enferstructure improvements! Yep once approved the juggernaut of Goverment is too big to find its waste or the lazy asses just don't.

Like the young man, we did the right and kind thing ten years ago, not I'm suppose to feel bad that HE didn't live up to his end.

Again, we need to start from scratch. First step we/Americans owe you nothing, after all we have plenty of turds of our own. But that doesn't mean we don't want to help, I think we do and will. So let's get on a path to having two cents to rub together and if those we help could try to act thankful wouldn't hurt too! American laws and Constitution is for American Citizens and I'm sorry but the term illegal in front of your status means exactly that.

LakeRidgeBBWSeek 63M
3847 posts
6/7/2018 7:16 pm

I agree entirely.


clittywhisperer1 59M
1415 posts
6/7/2018 7:48 pm

Some how in 1913 my 18 yr old future grandfather managed to apply for a visa to immigrate to the u.s. he paid his money which was all he had , arrangesd a sponsor already in the u.s. in good standing who was employed and spoke english . Arranged a job before he was allowed to leave Italy. paid his ship ticket . sailed from naples after taking a train from foggia 130 miles away . Had the clothes on his back and 3$ .He waited 2 yrs to get the visa . arrived after a 10 day sail at ellis island . was medically cleared and de loused ,stayed 14 days at ellis while his information was confirmed .Was interviewed and passed ,then he was released to go to the town his arranged job was in , he went by bus and started becoming american ,learning more english working and earning his pay at farm labor , paying his own way with no government payouts ,deals, free stuff or health coverage . 1916 at 21 he joined the army to fight in wwI against the european scuzzbags he left to get away from ,get his citizenship faster and learn more english faster . ! that is how a quality human being immigrates to the u.s. ! The right way , the legal way ,the way that does not burden his new country but adds to it's strength taking nothing that is not earned .He left the old world behind completely , refused to allow his children to learn italian .He focused on them being good at school , he only got to 4th grade in italy .He taught them trades and work ethic he fed clothed housed educated them himself with his wife to be good citizens and be proud to be American, To honor God .His 2 oldest sons served in WW II his middle son volunteered to serve in korea ( my dad) he was most proud of my father his only child to get a college degree ,He felt he was blessed incredibly to have a child with an education like that . my uncles were all tradesmen or owned their own company doing construction work . I am immensely proud of my grandfathers foresight and sacrifices so I can be here in america with a doctorate as just a second generation american . He did it legally and took nothing from anyone .


ProfessorNaught 111M
1406 posts
6/7/2018 10:32 pm

All well taken points and "presumed" based on information readily available to the general public. LA alone spends $2B annually on illegal aliens - willingly!

And yet how many (we know who they are) Politicians, People (and Juries) are coming to the defense of MS-13, 7 time deportee murderers and the general Immigrant Sponge that sucks the daylights out of America only to send their U.S. Earnings to their Home Country?

Its not that American's won't do the job, welfare pays better while the other half have been taught to be in pure how lazy they can get.


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