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HOW DO YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE CHED?
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HOW DO YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE CHED?  In the UK, there is a thorny issue concerning a footballer that is dividing opinion. Ched Evans is a professional footballer, currently not attached to any football club. In 2012, he was convicted of r ape and sentenced to five years in prison. At his court case, the jury found Ched Evans guilty of the r ape of a then 19-year old woman, who was deemed too drunk to consent to sex, at a hotel near Rhyl in North Wales in May 2011. Ched Evans has always maintained his innocence but he was denied leave to appeal against his conviction, a decision which was later upheld by the Court of Appeal of England and Wales in November last year. The footballer accepted that he had sex with the woman but argued that she, albeit very drunk, had consented. Ched Evans has only apologised to his girlfriend for being unfaithful. Because he believes he was wrongly convicted, the footballer has shown no remorse towards the r aped woman, who has had to go into hiding. In October 2014 and after serving half his sentence, Ched Evans was conditionally released from prison under licence. His last football club, Sheffield United, allowed the footballer to train with but not play for the football team and it contemplated re-signing him. The football club’s stance led to a petition being signed by 150,000 people in protest. Also, celebrity supporters of the club, such as the Olympic heptathlon gold medallist Jessica Ennis-Hill, voiced their opposition to the club’s position over the footballer. Most critically, companies threatened to withdraw their sponsorship if the club re-signed the footballer. Sheffield United backtracked and did not re-sign Ched Evans. Two other football clubs, Tranmere Rovers and Hartlepool United, also considered signing Ched Evans but backed down after opposition from the clubs’ supporters and sponsors. A Maltese football club, Hibernians FC, even tried to sign the footballer but Ched Evans isn’t allowed to leave the country under the conditions of his licence. Recently, yet another football club, Oldham Athletic, is thinking of signing the footballer. Again there has been opposition from the supporters and sponsors against the signing of Ched Evans. Since his release from prison, Ched Evans has not played professional football. There are those who argue that, as he has served his punishment, he should be allowed to play football. And there are those who argue that, as a convicted and unrepentant r apist, he should never play football again. The debate is getting very heated. Should Ched Evans be allowed to play professional football or not? This would never have happened to Roy Race who just scored winning goals for Melchester Rovers!  |
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In my opinion, "NO" team should sign him up!
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Should Ched Evans be allowed to play professional football or not? For those who have done the same thing in our Football League they have not been able to play anymore for a while until the courts have made a decision on his crime. hugsssssssss V Become a blog watcher sweet_vm
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Without addressing the merits of his case- whether he is actually guilty or not- I'd say no to more football for Ched. Unless it is made clear that assault won't be tolerated we can expect that men will continue behaving this way. We attempt to make heroes of sports celebrities and they sometimes get away with murder. It starts at an early age and they are often given freedom to behave like animals. So when they grow up why should they be any different? Women are speaking out about this much more than was common when I was young, and it's a good thing, but it's men who can change the culture of this. Raise your sons to respect women, and shun the men who don't. Become a member now and get a free tote bag.
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Whether or not he actually committed the crime for which he was convicted he has paid the given penalty and in a just world one would hope that he should be allowed to continue with his career. However, in his case, the career itself is the stumbling block. Finance and sponsorship play such a huge part in sport and he is not so good a payer to be able to outweigh the threat of clubs losing hard cash. There is also the feeling that sportsmen are role models for young people. It is going to be hard for him to find a club to sign him. It's a pity for him that he's not as good a player as Suarez. It's a pity for the ideals of football and sport in general that Suarez is such a good player. ~~Anais Nin~~
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The simple answer to your questions as posed is YES! Now before everyone get there nickers in a knot, I am not for one second condoning sexual assault.[/B] Also, I want to leave the victim out of it, and discuss the crime and punishment system... (you will note I did not say justice system, because justice is a fallacy - I think I have blogged about that before). The crime and punishment system, we live under says: you did crime X, the punishment should be Y. If we want to punishment to be Y+++, then make it Y+++ and not just Y. But when the punishment period is over, then it's over, not forgotten, but served, over! Given the facts you have presented, If you apply a sliding type scale, then you are kind of doing the same thing Ched did, making up the rules as we see fit on the spot. He feel consent is the absence of refusal, which is certainly not. I think the correct question that should have been asked is, "should a football side hire Ched Evans? Very different answer there! Find pleasure in giving pleasure
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A challenging argument... He has been accused and convicted of this crim but has pleaded his innocence and claims that although the young lady was heavily intoxicated, she gave consent and therefore does not accept that he committed no crime, owes her no apology and feels that repentence would imply acceptance of having committed the crime. Is it possible that although found guilty, he might not have had non-consensual sex with the accuser who may have agreed to the act, blacked out during the act, awoke several hours later with no memory of giving consent? If he is actually not guilty, regardless of the findings of the case, he has been treated very harshly and should be allowed to be re-signed. If he truly is guilty of having forced himself on a heavily intoxicated woman who truly did not give consent, he should never play again. A cautionary tale of having sex with anyone who is intoxicated to say the least and once a person has been "found guilty", their reputation is in tatters in the eyes of broader society, regardless of what might actually have transpired on the occasion in question. I do think people are rather too eager to make harsh judgements on people who are convicted of crimes of this kind, regardless of the facts of the event.  Given he's effectively served his punishment, I think he should be allowed to play football but getting a football club to employ him will be difficult.
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In my opinion, "NO" team should sign him up!
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Should Ched Evans be allowed to play professional football or not? For those who have done the same thing in our Football League they have not been able to play anymore for a while until the courts have made a decision on his crime. hugsssssssss V
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Without addressing the merits of his case- whether he is actually guilty or not- I'd say no to more football for Ched. Unless it is made clear that assault won't be tolerated we can expect that men will continue behaving this way. We attempt to make heroes of sports celebrities and they sometimes get away with murder. It starts at an early age and they are often given freedom to behave like animals. So when they grow up why should they be any different? Women are speaking out about this much more than was common when I was young, and it's a good thing, but it's men who can change the culture of this. Raise your sons to respect women, and shun the men who don't.
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I agree with you totally. He should be allowed to play professional football after serving his punishment. But football clubs are reluctant to sign him because of the commercial consequences. Because of the advice he's received, he hasn't at least accepted the situation he found himself in. He's not helped himself!
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It is difficult taking sides. In this case, because UK courts take the view that someone drunk can't give consent to sex, the footballer is on a loser!
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I totally agree.
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I agree that he should be allowed to play football after serving his punishment, but whether a club signs him up is another matter. I don't think he'll ever be proven innocent because the r aped victim was drunk and UK courts hold that drunk people can't give informed consent. That's a worrying stand given how sex sometimes happens! 
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..Professional athletes seem to think that there are no consequences to their actions.... outside their sports arena......I am afraid that karma is taking care of this one... Blue
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Whether or not he actually committed the crime for which he was convicted he has paid the given penalty and in a just world one would hope that he should be allowed to continue with his career. However, in his case, the career itself is the stumbling block. Finance and sponsorship play such a huge part in sport and he is not so good a payer to be able to outweigh the threat of clubs losing hard cash. There is also the feeling that sportsmen are role models for young people. It is going to be hard for him to find a club to sign him. It's a pity for him that he's not as good a player as Suarez. It's a pity for the ideals of football and sport in general that Suarez is such a good player.
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It is a very difficult call to make, but... It's not true to say that having served his time, he should now be allowed to resume his career. There are many professions where being of good moral standing is a requirement and where any criminal conviction would loose you your job. Just because it's not written in the rules for footballers does not mean football is different from other public careers. The public objection is however focussed on this case purely because it was THAT crime. We probably accept, possibly even expect low standards of conduct from footballers generally. It's actually nice to see that we still have some limits of acceptance! The matter of his guilt or innocence is not currently relevant. We are innocent until proven guilty. He was however found guilty and will remain so unless he can demonstrate through appeal that there has been an unfair conviction. There is no middle ground - It's one or the other.
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Marina Hyde's article was great. As you say, the problem is with the sentence as opposed to what happened after he's served his sentence.
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The simple answer to your questions as posed is YES! Now before everyone get there nickers in a knot, I am not for one second condoning sexual assault. Also, I want to leave the victim out of it, and discuss the crime and punishment system... (you will note I did not say justice system, because justice is a fallacy - I think I have blogged about that before). The crime and punishment system, we live under says: you did crime X, the punishment should be Y. If we want to punishment to be Y+++, then make it Y+++ and not just Y. But when the punishment period is over, then it's over, not forgotten, but served, over! Given the facts you have presented, If you apply a sliding type scale, then you are kind of doing the same thing Ched did, making up the rules as we see fit on the spot. He feel consent is the absence of refusal, which is certainly not. I think the correct question that should have been asked is, "should a football side hire Ched Evans? Very different answer there!
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I always agree with blue ... we need to start an anti-blue campaign! He's so reasonable and loveable!
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Your point about implicit and explicit consent is critical. But courts here, if the woman is drunk, requires explicit consent. I say don't go to a pub first!
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I agree with you. There's a book written by a woman about Australian sport that at least here is causing a storm. Culture!
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