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OPERATION YEWTREE
OPERATION YEWTREE Operation Yewtree and other related operations are police investigations into cases of so-called historic sexual abuse, including r ape and under-age sex, involving many famous men in Britain. These operations were launched in the wake of Jimmy Savile’s death in 2011. It’s claimed that Sir (now rescinded) Jimmy Savile was Britain’s most prolific p aedophile while he was a high-profile television presenter. The roll-call of other celebrities from the 1960s to the 1980s caught up by these police investigations include: Gary Glitter, Freddie Starr, Dave Lee (“the octopus”) Travis, Ian Watkins, Jim Davidson, Rolf (“Willy Wonka”) Harris, Jimmy Tarbuck, Max (“tiny” penis) Clifford, Jonathan King, Chris Denning, Paul Gambaccini, Stuart Hall, Fred Talbot, Freddie Starr, Bill Roache, Wilfrid Brambell, Andrew Lancel, Michael Le Vell, Cyril Smith and Cliff Richard. Some of these celebrities died before prosecution (eg Jimmy Savile, Cyril Smith); some have been found guilty and imprisoned (eg Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Max Clifford); some have been acquitted or not prosecuted (eg Jim Davidson, Paul Gambaccini, Jimmy Tarbuck); and some are awaiting trial or still being investigated (eg Cliff Richard). These cases are staggering, though none have reached Blue Peter … yet. Get down Shep! Some people, mainly the friends of the famous suspects, claim there’s a witch-hunt going on; and others claim it’s the tip of the iceberg with the Establishment covering up the actions of many culprits. The cases raise many interesting questions. Should people who commit offences in the past but only latterly charged be judged by the values of the present? Why are p aedophiles invariably men? What should we do with p aedophiles? I’m a liberal, but I don’t condone sex with . Research seems to suggest that once a p aedophile, always a p aedophile (a bit like drinking and smoking!) and that there’s no ‘cure’ (a bit like drinking and smoking!). Given this, it seems best to allow p aedophiles to allow them to admit their preferences to the authorities for them to be monitored, controlled and supported rather than them going underground. I’ve heard arguments that they should be executed, castrated, locked away forever or sent to a leper-like colony. That’s all fine but it doesn’t solve the problem. It’s like draining the swamp for the swamp still to remain! The war on p aedophilia is a bit like the war on terrorism. “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts,” so said Lord Acton. |
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Should people who commit offences in the past but only latterly suspected be judged by the values of the present? Yes Why are p aedophiles invariably men? They always see they can get away with things until they are caught in the act! What should we do with p aedophiles? Punishment for them or death Become a blog watcher sweet_vm
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They should be locked up and the key thrown away!
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Why are p aedophiles invariably men? I think there are many females involved also, not sure the percent though What should we do with p aedophiles? Castration and lifelong imprisonment. Or allow the adults in the victims life "quality time" with the animal. Will not prevent future problems by others, but there are times when retribution is necessary. The perpetrator has taken something away from their victim that will never be corrected
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There have been some worrying cases of women "enabling" kiddie porn - in particular there was a woman at a play school who took videos and provided them to a porn ring. The men involved in the Yewtree investigations all have a sense of entitlement in common - celebrities who thought they could have whatever they wanted. The "don't you know who I am?" attitude is prevalent in their lives, not too surprising it spread into their sexual behaviour.
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1. Yes, I think they should. 2. Most convicted are, but not all, not sure why there would be such a significant male predominance. 3. Treat with drugs to manage the harmful intent. It seems to me that this is really only the tip of the iceberg. With such an embedment in the world of entertainment, and with it being effectively 'buried' for decades, it seems highly probable that some senior establishemtn figures are involved too. While I'm not entirely comfortable with the way the witch hunt is being conducted, I think it is necessary, and I think it should refocus on other institutions.
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I believe we have the balance nearly spot on! People should be judged by the standards of the present but punished by the standards relevant at the time of the crime. Men generally are not involved in that kind of action. The very small number who are should not be allowed to tar all of us. That having been said, there does seem to be a gender aspect to it. The simple answer then is "Biology". They should be punished in accordance with the law. Far too many people have extreme and unwarranted reactions to sex crimes in general and that particular one specifically.
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Should people who commit offences in the past but only latterly suspected be judged by the values of the present? Yes Why are p aedophiles invariably men? They always see they can get away with things until they are caught in the act! What should we do with p aedophiles? Punishment for them or death
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..you know I agree with sweet V....I say that you can do anything you want to sexually but there are limits...this is one of them.... Blue...........
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To your first question, I say ABSOLUTELY! Offender of such crimes are more often than not men but there are very definitely women who commit this crime, too... I am aware of several cases but due to the fact that a female committing such a crime usually does nothing invasive of the victim, it's a more difficult crime to prove and is often perpetrated against young boys who are laughed-off as fantacists if they report it. A horrendous situation for the victim that people who have suffered at the hands of so-called men who commit this crime are taken more seriously. What should be done with offenders? Good question! I think cognitive and behavioural hypnosis could help in eradicating this undesirable urge... There also needs to be some more understanding within the broader community that many of these people who do this had it done to them when they were very young, so although it's completely abhorrent and abnormal to those who had healthy upbringings, it seems normal to someone who spent their childhood having it done to them. I'm not advocating the crime, I want to make that perfectly clear but often the perpetrator has been a victim and been programmed by their abuser to perceive this behaviour as normal. Just making laws to punish such crimes and the weight of public opinion that it's possibly the lowest crime one can commit isn't enough. It's essential to treat the p aedophile's own abuse from when they were young and make them see how wrong and evil that was and unless they want to be evil, they need to move into healthy, adult sexual relationships as I strongly suspect the reason for their actions is that they stopped developing as a sexual being (capable of adult sexual relationships) around the time they were harmed and still psychologically identify as the age they were when it happened to them and are somewhat oblivious on any conscious level of their chronological age. That's just my interpretation. Your response to this issue is one of the best I've read.
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They should be locked up and the key thrown away!
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Each case is always different which is why the punishment should fit each case and their different circumstances.
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I had to look up Stinson Hunter. I don't really support this type of vigilantism preferring to let the law, albeit flawed, do the work.
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Why are p aedophiles invariably men? I think there are many females involved also, not sure the percent though What should we do with p aedophiles? Castration and lifelong imprisonment. Or allow the adults in the victims life "quality time" with the animal. Will not prevent future problems by others, but there are times when retribution is necessary. The perpetrator has taken something away from their victim that will never be corrected
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Power seems to be a common denominator in many of these types of crime.
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There have been some worrying cases of women "enabling" kiddie porn - in particular there was a woman at a play school who took videos and provided them to a porn ring. The men involved in the Yewtree investigations all have a sense of entitlement in common - celebrities who thought they could have whatever they wanted. The "don't you know who I am?" attitude is prevalent in their lives, not too surprising it spread into their sexual behaviour.
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Another important point I'd like to make is that often the perpetrator of this crime is the parent of the victim... Some, seemingly normal, even respectable male members of society have been later discovered to visit this heinous crime upon their own daughters and even sometimes their own sons while appearing to be the perfect family man... We have to realize that these disgraces to humanity don't take one form as the gay misfit loner, the depraved "I can have anything I want" celebrity... People in child welfare and the police force and other areas of law enforcement, High Court judges in many cases have been exposed for committing such crimes. The innocence of the child is what makes them so desirable to these people. Worldly children terrify them.
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1. Yes, I think they should. 2. Most convicted are, but not all, not sure why there would be such a significant male predominance. 3. Treat with drugs to manage the harmful intent. It seems to me that this is really only the tip of the iceberg. With such an embedment in the world of entertainment, and with it being effectively 'buried' for decades, it seems highly probable that some senior establishemtn figures are involved too. While I'm not entirely comfortable with the way the witch hunt is being conducted, I think it is necessary, and I think it should refocus on other institutions.
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The punishment should fit the crime especially crimes against children!
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