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AN IRONIC FOURTH OF JULY  

spunkycumfun 63M/69F
29519 posts
7/4/2014 6:37 am
AN IRONIC FOURTH OF JULY



Above is Lindsay Marie’s Patriotic American Flag painting, though it looks more French than American to me!

Without irony, I want to wish a Happy Fourth of July to all my American friends.

The US Declaration of Independence was signed on 4 July 1776 announcing to the world that the American colonies, in renouncing British colonial rule, regarded themselves as a new sovereign country, the United States of America. The declaration of independence wasn’t immediately accepted by Britain and the American war for independence lasted a further five years until the British, after the Battle of Yorktown, surrendered to the Americans on 19 October 1781.

Just think what may have happened if the Americans didn’t declare and achieve independence; Britain would surely have won this year’s World Cup with Tim Howard in goals!

George Bernard Shaw once said, “England and America are two countries separated by a common language.” Another common observation made about America is that Americans, unlike the British, don’t do irony.

An American linguist compared the use of irony in the way the British and Americans speak. She found that Americans do irony, but what they regard as irony is what the British generally regard as sarcasm.

She found that the American meaning of irony tends to stress “negativity and saying the opposite of what is meant”, whereas the British “seem to have a far broader definition, which includes humorous exchange, clever wordplay and affectionate insults or criticisms of others”.

The linguist suggested that it’s the British who say that Americans don’t get irony, perhaps as an expression of arrogance in their sense of humour.

What does irony mean to you?
Do you do irony or sarcasm?
How would you describe the American sense of humour?


As an English person, I’ve struggled with irony and it took an Irish friend to teach me about the art of irony. I now understand irony as sarcasm but without the tone, so it’s sometimes more difficult to tell that someone means the opposite to what they say.

I like irony but I don’t like sarcasm, especially teenage sarcasm.

Perhaps the British thought the American Declaration of Independence was an ironic statement and so ignored it!

Please see the blog post, INDEPENDENCE DAY, for ten bits of American trivia.

Hillary Clinton is in Britain at the moment, allegedly to launch her book. Perhaps she can squeeze in a little fundraising in between her book-signing engagements, to help launch her hopeful presidential campaign.



pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/4/2014 6:43 am

I have always been fascinated by the English language usages. It sometimes seems that it is a different language in each country it is used. You had me up to the mention of Clinton (never mind the picture

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lok4fun500 M
51906 posts
7/4/2014 7:22 am

Love the photo of Hillary.


sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
7/4/2014 10:58 am

Love the photo. now that is so sexy! hugs V

Happy Fourth of July to all my American friends.



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sexysixties2 106F
39750 posts
7/4/2014 11:51 am

I like irony....it's the unexpected with a bit of a humorous twist.....sarcasm can be fun at times too lol.

I was once booted of an American blog for being ironic.....she thought I was being sarcastic.

American humour is......different.


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canyaz 56F
17128 posts
7/4/2014 1:09 pm

Must be why I enjoy British comedy so much...Monty Python being at the top of my list.

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Annie_V 54F

7/4/2014 3:12 pm

I love irony. Sarcasm I can take and give at times but in a fun way. It is wasted as an insult. there are so many better ways to use the language than that

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spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:22 am

    Quoting pal334:
    I have always been fascinated by the English language usages. It sometimes seems that it is a different language in each country it is used. You had me up to the mention of Clinton (never mind the picture
It looks as if the British English and the American English languages are getting increasingly different.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:25 am

    Quoting  :

I like Benny Hill more now than when he was around from the 1960s to the 1980s.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:26 am

Hillary scrubs up quite well!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:38 am

    Quoting  :

I didn't realise Hillary Clinton is quite freckly!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:41 am

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    Love the photo. now that is so sexy! hugs V

    Happy Fourth of July to all my American friends.


I take it that you find the first photo sexy and not Hillary Clinton's photo!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:43 am

    Quoting sexysixties2:
    I like irony....it's the unexpected with a bit of a humorous twist.....sarcasm can be fun at times too lol.

    I was once booted of an American blog for being ironic.....she thought I was being sarcastic.

    American humour is......different.

I've never had the honour of being blocked by a blogger for being ironic ... yet!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:44 am

    Quoting canyaz:
    Must be why I enjoy British comedy so much...Monty Python being at the top of my list.
Monty Python's comeback shows are getting rave reviews at the moment.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:45 am

    Quoting Annie_V:
    I love irony. Sarcasm I can take and give at times but in a fun way. It is wasted as an insult. there are so many better ways to use the language than that
I find sarcasm a quite cheap form of humour. But irony is to be savoured.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:46 am

    Quoting grayblue1:
    ..the American people have a wicked sense of humor and irony...look how we tolerate our government...

    Blue......
Very true! The same can be said for the British government ... and the French government.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 6:47 am

    Quoting  :

I had a crafty wank over Hillary's photo!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/12/2014 5:02 am

    Quoting  :

Touché!
Ed Byrne's take on Alanis Morrisette's Ironic song was very funny.


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