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ON THE JACK  

spunkycumfun 63M/69F
29519 posts
5/9/2014 8:56 am
ON THE JACK



When I was a at school, I would say that I was on the jack if I had a hard-on. Being on the jack was a badge of honour at school (and still is now)!

This post is prompted by [blog intendadiversion]’s interesting post, [post 3397363]. She wrote that a man can cum without an erection. As a comment, I added that a man can ejaculate without an orgasm. I decided more research was needed on this vitally important topic. Here are my research findings gleaned from the websites of AskMen, Columbia University’s Go Ask Alice!, WebMD and Wikipedia.

There is no agreed definition of an orgasm; at least 26 definitions of orgasm were mentioned in one journal article – see Mah K & Binik Y M (2001) The nature of human orgasm: a critical review of major trends Clinical Psychology Review 21(6) pp823-856.

But definitions of an orgasm stress regular muscular contractions leading to the release of tension with highly pleasurable sensations. An orgasm typically consists of 10 to 15 contractions that occur at regular rhythmic intervals - see Bolen J G (1980) The male orgasm: pelvic contractions measured by anal probe Archives of Sexual Behavior 9(6) pp503-521; this article looks like an interesting read!

An ejaculation is also a muscular spasm leading to the ejection of semen in a series of spurts, usually between 5 to 10 spurts. But ejaculation starts after the first or second muscular contraction of an orgasm. Once started, ejaculation is involuntary and cannot be stopped! Orgasmic muscular contractions continue after all semen has been spurted out.

An orgasm and an ejaculation usually occur together but they don’t have to come together. In their 1999 book, The Sexual Male: Problems and Solutions, Richard Milsten and Julian Slowinski wrote, “Orgasm and ejaculation are so closely related that men tend to use the term 'orgasm' to describe the overall experience and sensation, although the two can be desynchronized (i.e., there can be ejaculation without orgasm and orgasm without ejaculation).”

Both an orgasm and an ejaculation involve muscular spasms, but they are separate processes. The muscular contractions of an orgasm are largely controlled by the brain and are voluntary spasms. The muscular contractions of an ejaculation are controlled by the spinal cord and are involuntary spasms.

Though men usually orgasm and ejaculate together, a man can orgasm without ejaculation (a dry orgasm) and can ejaculate without orgasm (an anorgasmic ejaculation). According to AskMen, ejaculation and orgasm “are two separate things”, but men find it difficult to separate the two sensations because they have “learned to associate the two sensations.” Because orgasm and ejaculation often happen at the same time, men often assume they are the same. They are not!

I have ejaculated without orgasm, which is quite a frustrating experience. I may have orgasmed without ejaculation, but I can’t be sure about that. If I’ve cum more than once and I’m all spunked out, I don’t know whether the orgasmic spasms are also the ejaculatory spasms!

Have you or do you know anyone who has ejaculated without orgasm?
Have you or do you know anyone who has orgasmed without ejaculation?
Do you think men’s faces look stupid when they have an orgasm?
What did you call an erect cock when you were a ?




pal334 69M  
45821 posts
5/9/2014 9:32 am

I thought more on this subject after posting her blog. After several orgasms, I can have what I refer to as a "dry shot' for that one last time. Generally it is very intense without ejaculate and usually is from manual stimulation by her. I guess us guys are a bit more complicated than I would have thought

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lok4fun500 M
51906 posts
5/9/2014 9:52 am

No to the first 2 questions!
When I look at his face,,,,do I look like that??
I'm 64, spunky...I don't think I had a hardon as a kid!


canyaz 56F
17128 posts
5/9/2014 10:16 am

The other night my husband came to bed and started to fondle me. He brought me to orgasm with his fingers many times. He was pressed against my hip while he did this. He had an orgasm without getting hard. He has done this a few times in the past. Once, while we were in the tub together. He came in my hair, as I was laying against him between his legs. Nice to know I have that effect on him.

There is a difference between a good BJ and a bad BJ.
canyaz


sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
5/9/2014 10:33 am

It was a good post from intend! Loved it. it isn't the face of the man when he has an orgasm but his feet as they curl up that I know I did well hugs V

Become a blog watcher sweet_vm


khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
5/9/2014 11:47 am

I have definitely ejaculated without orgasm, but I was hard every time it happened.

It seems we are all different, so I don't doubt that there are men who can ejaculated while soft as intenda blogged. The is apparently a gentleman on Affairlook, who can go from soft to hard and ejaculate with absolutely no stimulation.

Find pleasure in giving pleasure


sexysixties2 106F
39750 posts
5/10/2014 12:22 pm

I have been with a man who orgasmed without ejaculation but not the other way round.

I don't recall any screwed up tortured looks on their faces with the exception of one man whose face changed totally.


"Age does not protect you from love, but love, to some extent, protects you from age."

~~Anais Nin~~


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:31 pm

    Quoting AmeliaCox:
    Dear S, this was an unusually informative post... I was always led to believe, even from books on biology and human reproduction chapters, that orgasm and ejaculation were one and the same but I can accept that they're not, though very closely associated most of the time.

    I do not know of any guy ejaculating sans orgasm.

    I can say that since I have now discovered that they are not the same thing, that I have had a dry orgasm or two. They are rare.

    Some men's faces contort when they come but not all. I don't understand the "cum face" phenomenon. Why do some men's faces contort when they come? That would put me off wanting seconds with them. I usually watch a guy I'm with as he comes and I'm usually lucky that there's a gritting of the teeth and tightening of the jaws coupled with wildly flitting eyes from my face to my breasts to any other stimulating view but no screwed-up face as though he's getting gored by a bull in Pamplona.

    I used to call erections of other kids at school "stiffies"... "Oh look, (insert name) has got a stiffie!" As we got older, we changed it to "(insert name) has got a fat!". Depending upon who it was, they may get kudos or ridiculed. I never got them, still never do which is a saving grace because I'd never cope with a more than semi-on.
I'm pleased that you found my post "unusually informative". I'm going to take that as a positive rather than as a negative.
I also used to call erections 'hard-ons' and very occasionally 'stiffies'.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:32 pm

    Quoting pal334:
    I thought more on this subject after posting her blog. After several orgasms, I can have what I refer to as a "dry shot' for that one last time. Generally it is very intense without ejaculate and usually is from manual stimulation by her. I guess us guys are a bit more complicated than I would have thought

    [image]
I think men are more complicated than sometimes they are given credit for.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:34 pm

    Quoting lok4fun500:
    No to the first 2 questions!
    When I look at his face,,,,do I look like that??
    I'm 64, spunky...I don't think I had a hardon as a kid!
I thought it was me who looked like that but, if you want to claim the look, I won't stand in your way!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:41 pm

    Quoting canyaz:
    The other night my husband came to bed and started to fondle me. He brought me to orgasm with his fingers many times. He was pressed against my hip while he did this. He had an orgasm without getting hard. He has done this a few times in the past. Once, while we were in the tub together. He came in my hair, as I was laying against him between his legs. Nice to know I have that effect on him.
You and your husband are living scientific proof that an erection, ejaculation and orgasm are different things. That's a nice effect you have on him!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:42 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    It was a good post from intend! Loved it. it isn't the face of the man when he has an orgasm but his feet as they curl up that I know I did well hugs V
Curled-up feet is always a give-away for men and women!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:43 pm

    Quoting khuXBFXM8u:
    I have definitely ejaculated without orgasm, but I was hard every time it happened.

    It seems we are all different, so I don't doubt that there are men who can ejaculated while soft as intenda blogged. The is apparently a gentleman on Affairlook, who can go from soft to hard and ejaculate with absolutely no stimulation.
I should hope it's hard to ejaculate without orgasm!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:45 pm

    Quoting  :

My guess is that soft and ejaculating is not as good as hard and ejaculating for women. I could be wrong!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:49 pm

    Quoting sexysixties2:
    I have been with a man who orgasmed without ejaculation but not the other way round.

    I don't recall any screwed up tortured looks on their faces with the exception of one man whose face changed totally.

I can't even guess what's best if given a choice, orgasm or ejaculation. I'm presuming both is best.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/14/2014 12:56 pm

    Quoting  :

I think Wikipedia has pinched my cockshots. I always suspected it was a dodgy website!
For you, I will deliver a female orgasm face blog post.


FMAOPLS 70F
27112 posts
5/25/2014 8:05 pm

Yes, my ex-boyfriend could orgasm without ejaculaton, multiple times. He occasionally used Viagra (although I don't believe he needed it), And for some long-forgotten reason, I purchased the book "The Multi-Orgasmic Male" for him as a gift. One of the premises it discusses in holding off the ejaculation is all in strenghenng the pubococcyges muscle (which woman train by Kegel exercises),

The book can be found, entirely in pdf form, by googling it.

To tell you the truth, it was a big mistake - as I live for the ejaculate !

Another former sexual partner could never get an erection, due (I think) to a plumbing issue which he refused to get checked out. Due to his heart history and that he already took Digitalis, he was unable to take Viagra or any of the other erectile-dysfunction drugs.

I would suck him forever, until my jaw and neck were sore - and he would NEVER get hard. Then he would jerk off into my mouth, without ever having even had a stiffy.

As for both - NOT MY FAVOURITE sexual experience.

Check out my profile or and become a "watcher" of my blog FMAOPLS,to learn more about me, and for intelligent, lively, smartassy and fun discussion, with a little irreverence thrown in. "Like" or comment on my photos, and I promise I'll add more. Thanks.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
5/26/2014 1:33 am

    Quoting FMAOPLS:
    Yes, my ex-boyfriend could orgasm without ejaculaton, multiple times. He occasionally used Viagra (although I don't believe he needed it), And for some long-forgotten reason, I purchased the book "The Multi-Orgasmic Male" for him as a gift. One of the premises it discusses in holding off the ejaculation is all in strenghenng the pubococcyges muscle (which woman train by Kegel exercises),

    The book can be found, entirely in pdf form, by googling it.

    To tell you the truth, it was a big mistake - as I live for the ejaculate !

    Another former sexual partner could never get an erection, due (I think) to a plumbing issue which he refused to get checked out. Due to his heart history and that he already took Digitalis, he was unable to take Viagra or any of the other erectile-dysfunction drugs.

    I would suck him forever, until my jaw and neck were sore - and he would NEVER get hard. Then he would jerk off into my mouth, without ever having even had a stiffy.

    As for both - NOT MY FAVOURITE sexual experience.
Thanks for your reassuring post. I like to orgasm and ejacualte at the same time and then, after a little rest, do it again and maybe again!


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