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RAGING BULL  

spunkycumfun 63M/69F
29519 posts
9/2/2013 11:57 am
RAGING BULL



The American novelist Ernest Hemingway wrote about bull-fighting in his books, The Sun Also Rises (1926) and Death In The Afternoon (1932). Hemingway was fascinated with bull-fighting and, in 1924, even took part in the running of the bulls (without ever getting close to any bulls) in Pamplona, Spain. Hemingway loved to get drunk, particularly on rose wine, and he loved to fuck women. He once wrote “An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools” and “Wine is one of the most civilized things in the world”.

Ernest Hemingway served as an ambulance driver in World War One and got seriously wounded by mortar fire. He reported on the Spanish Civil War, which influenced his For Whom The Bell Tolls book published in 1940. He also reported on World War Two, including the D-Day landings though he was not allowed to land because he was considered "precious cargo", and the liberation of Paris. In 1954, Hemingway was awarded the Nobel Prize for literature. In the 1950s, Hemingway holed up in Cuba, where he was watched by J Edgar Hoover’s FBI for presumably un-American activities. In 1961, he shot himself with a shotgun. Later, a minor planet, discovered by a Soviet Union astronomer, was named after him!

What a life! Move over Justin Bieber, Simon Cowell and EL James.

When I went to Mexico, one of my friends excitedly invited me to see some bull-fighting. I said no. Should I have been more culturally sensitive and gone? Or, should I stick to my guns that animals should be either free or eaten but not played with?

When I was a , I used to mount a campaign against my father allowing his land to be used for fox-hunting. He eventually said to the local fox hunt that they could not ride over his fields. Campaign won, but at the time I didn’t realise he was banning his farming friends. I felt humble.

Have you been to see bull-fighting or bull-running? If not, would you go?
Were you a teenage rebel and, if so, what did you rebel against?


canyaz 56F
17128 posts
9/2/2013 6:28 pm

My father was good friends with a famous bull fighter in Spain, Robert Varva. I went to many bull fights as a kid. It was not something I enjoyed but I was a curious child.
As a teen, I was in college at 15. I rebelled against being a teenager...

There is a difference between a good BJ and a bad BJ.
canyaz


lok4fun500 M
51906 posts
9/2/2013 7:42 pm

I hate bull fighting and running!
No, I wasn't a young rebel!


lindoboy100 61M
23969 posts
9/3/2013 4:15 am

1. I went to Pamplona 23 years ago, it was completely exhilarating and terrifying all at once. Not sure I'd enjoy that now, nor the spectacle of bull fighting. But to each their own............
2. Yes, and just about everything!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
9/6/2013 12:55 am

    Quoting AmeliaCox:
    In my opinion, bull-fighting is sick and cruel and bull-running is perverse and pointless... Why would anyone think an exercise like that could be considered a rite of passage into manhood? Warped! I would never go to see or take any part in either and to your earlier question, you should not have been more culturally sensitive as the culture was wrong, not you.

    Did I rebel against anything as a teenager? Some would argue that I rebelled against society's sexual mores, it was not deliberate, just me identifying myself as honestly and faithfully to my sex identity as I knew how... If I rebelled against anything it would have been adults on power-trips over children, it's one thing to be authoritative for the right reasons, it's quite another to just lord over kids for some perverse sense of power over something smaller and powerless. I rebelled against that every time I witnessed it
I agree that bull fighting and bull running is cruel. Some people also think horse racing is cruel.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
9/6/2013 12:57 am

    Quoting  :

Very true.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
9/6/2013 12:59 am

    Quoting canyaz:
    My father was good friends with a famous bull fighter in Spain, Robert Varva. I went to many bull fights as a kid. It was not something I enjoyed but I was a curious child.
    As a teen, I was in college at 15. I rebelled against being a teenager...
I was sent away to school in my teens, so my rebellions were always against the school authorities. I was the first person in my year to get caned!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
9/6/2013 1:00 am

    Quoting lok4fun500:
    I hate bull fighting and running!
    No, I wasn't a young rebel!
At home I was not rebellious, though at school I was a little.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
9/6/2013 1:01 am

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    1. I went to Pamplona 23 years ago, it was completely exhilarating and terrifying all at once. Not sure I'd enjoy that now, nor the spectacle of bull fighting. But to each their own............
    2. Yes, and just about everything!
Pamplona is still going strong; I think some bull running events have been organised in the US.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
9/7/2013 1:20 am

    Quoting AmeliaCox:
    Horse racing is cruel. Sure horses like to run (around a paddock, not a track)... It is wrong to hit any living thing to make it work faster, run faster or break its spirit so it accepts being treated that way as it's lot in life... Horse trotting is even worse because they are put into those hobble structures that alters their natural running gait so they can drag a flippin' buggy without flipping the a-hole in it onto the track for the trampling they deserve.
    A horse is psychologically designed to gallop, not trot, changing this aspect of how they move is not too dissimilar to severing a man's equipment against his will and telling him that henceforth he must act and have sex as a woman... Tut, tut!
The moves that horses do for dressage competitions seem strange as well!


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