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GUNS N' ROSES  

spunkycumfun 63M/69F
29519 posts
12/19/2012 9:51 pm
GUNS N' ROSES



In the recent and saddening aftermath of the Newtown gun massacre in Connecticut where 26 people died, gun reform is back on the political agenda in the US.

Gun massacres are not just an American thing, though there have been lots of gun massacres in the US, eg the 1999 Columbine High School massacre (13 dead), the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre (32 dead), and this year’s Aurora cinema massacre (12 dead).

Outside the US, 77 people died in gun massacre on Utoya Island in Norway last year. In 1982, 57 died in the Sang-Namdo gun massacre in South Korea. In 1996, 35 died in the Port Arthur gun massacre in Australia. In the UK, 16 people died in the Hungerford gun massacre in 1987, 17 people died in the Dunblane massacre in 1996, and 12 people died in the Cumbrian shootings of 2010.

After each gun massacre, there is a depressing cycle – widespread demands for gun reform, government proposals for gun reform, organised lobbying against gun reform, no (or limited) gun reform, and then back to the start after the next massacre. It is not easy to achieve gun reform because of the politics of gun reform - mainly, a very organised gun lobby (eg the National Rifle Association in the US) and the problems of changing laws (eg the Second Amendment to the US constitution gives individuals the right to bear arms’). We guess this is why the US President, Barack Obama, in the wake of the Newtown massacre, can only promise “meaningful” not decisive action.

The American science fiction writer, Robert A Heinlein once wrote: "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Inspired by this quote, The Polite Society was formed in 2003 to train people how to use guns through shooting events held around the US.

Heinlein’s quote, to us, just seems perverse. One way to reduce gun killings, and admittedly not the only way, is to reduce the number of guns in circulation.

Should gun use be controlled?
Should citizens have the right to own and carry weapons?
Will gun reform happen in the US?


In 2995, the American comedian, Larry the Cable Guy, released an album called The Right to Bare Arms. We like this idea!

FullOn4U 58M
20399 posts
12/20/2012 2:10 am

Heinlein had several mad ideas.

Any society that depends on the threat of execution to ensure good manners is clearly fucked.


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
12/21/2012 1:40 am

    Quoting FullOn4U:
    Heinlein had several mad ideas.

    Any society that depends on the threat of execution to ensure good manners is clearly fucked.
I'd not come across Heinlein until I saw that quote. I think I'll steer clear of him!
xx


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