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Why Bother?  

Howdy3328 62F  
768 posts
5/20/2016 12:44 pm
Why Bother?


Guys,
Why bother to sending an email that just says:

HI
Hey there
How's it going

That does not get our attention. It really does nothing, except fill up our inbox in all truthfullness.
It is rarely, if at all, going to get you a response.

Have something to pique our interest, or to show that you are interested
ie.......I read your profile and _____________,
Tell us soemthing about YOU, and NOT your stats!

Put a little effort into this
IF you really want to be successful

and get more ______________

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
5/20/2016 12:58 pm

You can consider it as a , "Knock-knock anybody home?"

If you don't like the guys picture, nor his hale, then don't respond.

But, yes, "Hi , I read your profile and I have a question/comment about....", would be better.

But again, if the woman's profile is long, and he does read it, she may not respond anyway, merely due to the likely fact she has 50 or more emails from here, daily.

So really it's much better, for him, to see if anyone is home first. Then if you respond, he will read further details of your profile. Of course if he doesn't , then it's reasonable to move on.


PyschoLoco 61M
1550 posts
5/20/2016 1:09 pm

Howdy,Howdy. You do realize most of the dudes on this site rely on strength of cock as opposed to brain size, don't you ?

Standards are people too.....kinda


Howdy3328 replies on 5/20/2016 1:25 pm:
indeed, I do. lol.

xtita3 62M  
528 posts
5/20/2016 1:09 pm

well to some it may not matter but ive written paragraphs and still didnt get a response :so i say why spent time and effort writing a meaningful message and get no reply when just a plain HI HOW ARE YOU ................ SHOULD DO FOR START
THATS MY WHY BOTHER


s2ndegree 65M
9800 posts
5/20/2016 2:39 pm

I stopped messaging all together.Guys in their fifties need to be more than half their age to get any responses.I have always preferred those close to my age or older.I follow their lead and treat anyone over 50 as deceased.They do have some of the best excuses though!

Using more than all the road!


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
5/20/2016 7:44 pm

    Quoting  :

if a guy expends energy for only the ones that really have potential in your book I think they will be more successful. ... Not at all, until after the "Knock Knock", because when there is no answer, there is no answer and all the energy spent was for not.

What is to be certain is that very few of us will get 50 quality emails per day ... So it's still 50 or more. Much better to wait for a reply from the woman.

so if a guy wants to stand out amongst a lot of emails he should write something more than HI or Hey. .... Yes , already said what his maximum should be. However, "Hi" or "Hey" should be considered as a, "Is anyone home?"

I don't look at the profile of a guy that says only "Hi" so he pretty much wasted his time typing those 2 letters and clicking send. .... Still he is better off doing just that, requesting if anyone is home to chat with.

But if he wrote a decent message that showed he read my profile and has some manners about him I would definitely check out his profile. ... There is no assurance you'd that, so it would be his time wasted, meanwhile you, or any woman, would delete a page of Affairlook email without a second thought.

I still believe people should practice a certain level of proper etiquette. .... Yes, so you get a , "Hi" [essentially a knock knock , anyone home], the proper etiquette is to answer the door.

But we are in an era of assumed entitlement and so many people do not think to even say "thank you" any more much less be polite. .... Receiving politeness is earned, but yes, I know what you're saying. Texting has created a non-sensual zone in society, completely contrary to hundreds of thousands of years of actual verbal communication. So things are not going to get any better. Likely much worse.

I have tried to respond to every email that demonstrated that the guy put some effort into it even if it was just a couple sentences. ... That's great, but "Hi" should still be looked upon as a valid salutation gesture.

I might have looked at the profile and thought I wasn't interested but still responded explaining why (distance, age, interests or whatever). ... No, don't do that. No answer is better than explaining why you're not interested. People don't take rejection well. Getting caught up in thier tizzy isn't good for you.

With regards to knowing if someone "is home" I think that looking at the last sign in date lets people know whether the member is still active. .... Not what I was saying. "Hi", is asking if anyone is home. Answering his salutation notifies him that you are 'home', so begins the conversation [chat].

So while I can understand the concept of conserving effort on the part of the guy I guess it's also important to remember that you are relying on the woman's mentality which dictates if she will respond. ... That's the risk.

If it's in her mindset to not pay attention to "knocking on the door" then it's really not working for men to knock on her door. .... Then it's a good thing he did not immerse himself in the womans profile.

Since many women are pointing this same issue out in their profiles or blogs I think that guys can accept that women do really think this way and decide if they want to work within our mindset or theirs. ... I've seen all of the comments from women too. But since men outnumber the women here, so creating all kinds of competition for a woman, it's better he just knocks , "Hi", and waits for the door to open.

I don't say this to be bitchy at all, just sharing the perspective of a female that gets a decent amount of messages and has to decide who to spend time communicating with. ....You won't know that, until you answer a salutation. However, like men, probably a sure-bet that the better looking or interesting the leading profile photo is, the more attention the woman is going to give the email, to begin with, even if there is just , "Hi there!"

I've mentioned it in my profile and in my blog. If a guy sends me a "Hi" then he didn't read my profile. .... That's your assumption, and you could be wrong, also again, he has no incentive to read your entire profile or blog until he gets, from you, "Hello, what did you want to chat about".

You choose some profiles and send a salutation for chat conversation. By doing that, you have chosen whom you're interested in, and avoid wading through pages of email. Also, your note, can be a simple, "Hello".


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
5/21/2016 1:37 pm

    Quoting  :

The person who just says, "Hi" , and the person who say's , "Hi, [followed by other stuff], can be just as great, or just as obnoxious. Answer and find out.

Yes, women complain about the lack of wording, and some even respond with cutting shaming sentences padded with mockery, to the man. [She then turns around, copies it, and posts it in her blog]. She wouldn't be any good for anyone. That woman is ugly.

The first salutation is still a "knock on the door" to determine if someone will answer.

The men who get shamed , and sometimes publically via blog publishings, for writing one or two words, those guys dodged a bullet.

But I can tell you that this is a recurring issue being raised by women that blog or respond to blogs ....I know, I read them. To me those women just come across as really gross personalities spoiled by attention.

You get a knock on your door, you look through your peep-hole [the profile photo] , you respond or you just don't answer the door. Really that simple.

There is no rational reason for him to put a lot of effort into a salutation to a closed door. One door [from his perspective] that may never be opened, because from her perspective there are 60 doors, saying "Hi", and saying "Ramble ramble ramble".

a woman has more attractive photos and you assume she will be getting more mail from interested parties ....This is not an assumption, this is a fact. Unlike the bar [or some party] where the most attractive woman stands with a few confident men approaching her, the internet provides a sense of security for the insecure men who can now figuratively approach the attractive woman. So the result, she has all kinds of attention to choose , if at all, from.

But lets go back to the party scenario, and the attractive woman, the best approach is a "Hello", followed up with a smile, and then says nothing else to her. This fellow stands out . She gets ruffled because he won't give her more attention. So she approaches him, and they talk. Women choose anyway with whom she wants to spend her time.

So the scenario is virtually [no pun] the same on the internet. She's going to choose anyway, the yapper, or the one or two worded man. Then see where it goes from there.

For her to complain about the one or two worded man, only makes her look gross and full of herself.

wouldn't it behoove you to put more energy into your message in hopes that your message will stand out from the rest. .... No.
See if she's going to answer cordially first.


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